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#1 2020-04-03 18:54:57

Mitko
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Shipping problems … continue

In various topics, I described the issues that I was experienced with the Chinese ship-forwarding companies. As was mentioned, I withheld one of the payments to YoyBuy (https://www.yoybuy.com) due to various problems, but they continue to demand I to pay them. I also registered a new account with Shipforwarder (https://www.shipforwarder.com/), but they raised the shipping prices. Bellow are the prices for shipping 1 kg. to Bulgaria.

YoyBuy:
YoyBuy

Shipforwarder:
Shipforwarder

In my opinion, it looks expensive. Can anyone recommend other options ?

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#2 2020-04-03 19:27:36

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what did you buy?

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#3 2020-04-03 20:10:53

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kekemuyu 说:

what did you buy?

You mean in the past or currently ?

In the past: semiconductors, components, PCBs., motors, 3D printer parts, various welding accessories, IP camera modules etc.

Currently, I have not purchased anything yet. I was thing about ordering some PCBs, again semiconductors, capacitors, resistors, probably some PCBs. I was also considering getting one Kendryte K210 EVB and few modules. In your opinion, which option is better: Widora’s BITK210, Sipeed MAIX Dock K210, Allwinner R329, other MCU/SoC with AI ? I spoke lately with Allwinner about R329. I will not be available for at least 3 months.

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#4 2020-04-03 20:37:25

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为什么不在保加利亚买?

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#5 2020-04-03 21:05:09

Mitko
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k455619 说:

为什么不在保加利亚买?

Bulgaria does not manufacture AI chips, yet. The PCBs that I can order in China cost about 4 USD/10 pcs. in Bulgaria, the cheapest offer I had for PCBs is 33 USD/10 pcs. On the other hand I can order a PCB panel let say with 4-5 prototype PCBs for around 20 USD. As an alternative to the Chinese AI chips, I can probably use STM32H750, there is also some other European AI chip manufacturers. Still is expensive in Bulgaria. For example, the price for STM32H750 @ 10 pcs. is 40 CNY, in China - 20 CNY ?

You know what most of the Bulgarians/Europeans do – purchase products from China, double or triple the price and look we have a great economy in Europe …

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#6 2020-04-03 21:16:32

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Mitko 说:

You mean in the past or currently ?

In the past: semiconductors, components, PCBs., motors, 3D printer parts, various welding accessories, IP camera modules etc.

Currently, I have not purchased anything yet. I was thing about ordering some PCBs, again semiconductors, capacitors, resistors, probably some PCBs. I was also considering getting one Kendryte K210 EVB and few modules. In your opinion, which option is better: Widora’s BITK210, Sipeed MAIX Dock K210, Allwinner R329, other MCU/SoC with AI ? I spoke lately with Allwinner about R329. I will not be available for at least 3 months.

you can try to order pcbs at https://jlcpcb.com/,this company is famous about making pcbs in chnia and other counties.
semiconductors,you can try at taobao.com.
ai modules,k210 chip is nice. all this things you can get at taobao.

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#7 2020-04-03 23:08:19

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Mitko 说:

Bulgaria does not manufacture AI chips, yet.

Maybe contact a friend at Olimex? If your project has some open source potential, I can't see they not being interested.

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#8 2020-04-03 23:33:11

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Mitko 说:

Bulgaria does not manufacture AI chips, yet. The PCBs that I can order in China cost about 4 USD/10 pcs. in Bulgaria, the cheapest offer I had for PCBs is 33 USD/10 pcs. On the other hand I can order a PCB panel let say with 4-5 prototype PCBs for around 20 USD. As an alternative to the Chinese AI chips, I can probably use STM32H750, there is also some other European AI chip manufacturers. Still is expensive in Bulgaria. For example, the price for STM32H750 @ 10 pcs. is 40 CNY, in China - 20 CNY ?

You know what most of the Bulgarians/Europeans do – purchase products from China, double or triple the price and look we have a great economy in Europe …

这就是所谓的产业链的问题。其实大概十年前,中国的电商行业还没有这么发达的时候,在中国的某些省份,买电子无器件,也很麻烦,和你们现在的处境是一样的。当电商行业迅速发展起来以后,整个商业就活跃起来了。这一点,说真心话,中国政府在基建方面的投资(比如高速公路、铁路、机场建设这些方面)起了很大促进作用。我的老家是中国的西部山区省份,基建成本非常高,政府为了解决交通问题,最近这十几年,投入了大量的资金,这个,可能你们的媒体从来不会报道,所以你们不了解。
另外,如果你对淘宝上面的商品,不能很好的辨别的话,尽量不要在淘宝上面买,因为淘宝上面,确实有很多同样的物品,价格会比其它地方便宜很多,很有可能是假货,你容易被骗。这个不是和你抬杠,我自己有时候都弄不清淘宝上面哪个是真货,哪个是假货。
中国还有很多质量有保证的电商企业,卖的元器件会比淘宝上贵一些,但是质量都是有保证的。你可以考虑一下。具体有哪些电商是质量有保证,这个你最好问晕哥,否则他会以为我在打广告。 lol lol lol

最近编辑记录 OggyJFX (2020-04-03 23:36:45)

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#9 2020-04-04 04:48:10

Mitko
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kekemuyu 说:

you can try to order pcbs at https://jlcpcb.com/,this company is famous about making pcbs

I use: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=9379760689
PCBs
20 CNY for 10 pcs. (2 layer, max 100x100 mm) and they give me some small bonuses.

Blueskull 说:

Maybe contact a friend at Olimex?

I do not get along with Olimex. Some years ago I was telling them to developed a cheap Linux board, when the CHIP board was announced:
Chip
They got angry at me and responded that they where not going to developed single core Linux board, since the 4-core SoCs were cheaper. The price of 9 USD was impossible to maintain etc. But in your opinion do the international customers care whatever Olimex wants, since they can purchase sub-10 USD Linux board, like Orange Pi,  Lichee Pi Nano, Zero ? Can anyone state how many single-core Linux boards with Allwinner F1C100S, V3S … were sold since 2015 ?

OggyJFX 说:

...

In my opinion, it is not much about infrastructure, rather than US protectionism demands. They push China to raise the postage and shipping fees, so the US products can be competitive. The only thing is that US and Europe are technologically failing much behind China and they can not offer such products. You know what is funny, the European Union invested billions of Euros (tax payers money) in Artificial Intelligence and Europe has no major players on the global market. There was one very perspective Romanian company called Movidius. To the best of my understanding the European Union gave them hundred of millions in grants for developing new technologies. And the company was sold to Intel. Intel did noting, but developed some computational stick. I’m currently waiting for respond from one French company, called GreenWaves Technologies (https://greenwaves-technologies.com/), they manufacture GAP8/9 - IoT application processors. One of the problems is that it has small internal memory. It is expandable via HyperBus. Do you know what is the price just of a memory chip with HyperBus ?
GAP8

As about the fakes and low quality products on TaoBao. I had quite few such experiences.
Recently purchased some SPP-C modules:
SPP-C
They were intended for communication with smartphones. But some communication errors were appearing. I had quite a quarrel with the Android software developer, he was demanding that the modules are fake and providing unstable communication. The dispute got so heated, huge insults … at the end, the forum administrators deleted the topic … and I throw on the garbage the boards … So much time, money lost for developing, preparation … Well I do not think that Beken (http://www.bekencorp.com/) BLE products are so bad, but I was considering to order some Nordic Semiconductor (https://www.nordicsemi.com/) BLE boards too. By the way is there Beken IC fakes ?

In the past many TaoBao stores were willing to ship to Europe directly, currently no one is willing to ship directly.

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#10 2020-04-04 22:43:33

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Mitko 说:

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你说的这家公司(http://www.bekencorp.com/),我不太了解。
不过说实话,中国企业,在半导体行业,起步很晚,比你们西方国家晚了很多。所以有时候有些产品会存在一些缺陷,很正常。
以后如果你要开发产品,选择元器件或者模块的时候,最好顺带买一个厂家的评估板,买回去,先用厂家的评估板测试,没问题了再开发,否则等你做了大量开发工作以后才发现有问题,你的损失,确实会很大。
再有就是有了问题以后,你尽可能的给对方提供非常详细的测试方法和测试环境,让对方可以发现芯片确实存在问题。有时候我们也会遇到一些奇怪的问题,客户明明能发现,我们自己就是发现不了,我们有时候就让客户把产品寄回来,我们进行测试。因为技术问题争吵,很正常,但是不要演变成人身攻击,非常不好。
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“The only thing is that US and Europe are technologically failing much behind China and they can not offer such products." 这句话如果我理解得没有问题的话,你是说中国已经超过美国和欧洲了?这一点我非常不赞同。其实从我自身感觉来看,中国不管是高科技方面,还是人民的生活水平,都比美国和欧洲要差。中国现在就是靠着人口多,经济总量才比较大。人均收入,和西方比,还是差很多很多的。
中国的某些产品(像你说的F1C100S)在国际上有成本优势,其实我觉得主要就是因为中国的人力成本比较低。
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另外,问一下,你们那儿现在2019-nCoV的疫情怎么样?我看了一下,保加利亚到目前为止,是400多例。
这次的疫情,让我非常不理解的是,中国在1月份的时候,宣布封闭武汉,全国很多城市都减少人员流动,基本都在家待着不出门,经过两个月的时间,疫情稳定了。从1月份开始,中国封城,WHO也多次警告,但你们西方国家,基本没有哪个政府真正的做出一些努力来控制疫情,等到3月份了西方疫情大爆发了,美国,英国都开始批判说中国数据不透明,才导致他们没有采取行动。现在他们做了一些努力,这些努力在大部分中国人眼中,都已经晚了,白折浪费了2个月的时间。但是我不能理解的是,特朗普和约翰逊的支持率还创下新高?

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#11 2020-04-05 04:42:30

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@OggyJFX,

In my opinion, you should not look just at the numbers … In many cases, it is all fake. I worked in one country for some years – the amount of money big, at the end … nothing, just losses … everything expensive … those are the models that the currently many governments are trying to implement. Building infrastructure, providing sociality … and the end the living conditions get worse, while certain people associated to governments get richer ... What I hear from other people, in China similar stuff ? Someone complained that more than 80% of his product price was transportation fees …

Regarding the virus, the current Bulgarian government is doing something … well what to tell you ? Many Bulgarians think that since there is democracy they can do whatever they want, do not comply with laws, rules … But, from what I understand, initially the Chinese government cover the cases … Presume Johnson and Trump are doing whatever they can. Do you have understanding how greedy some of the people are in those societies ? Many care just about money and what they want. They do not care that their actions can bring damages … I have currently one case, near the appartament where I live in Bulgaria, someone is building another housing block. It is very close and in my opinion does not comply with building standards.  So, I had a complain. The Bulgarian police asked me to go for discussion of the cases. At some point referred that in their opinion, I was no-one and the price of my life was nothing in comparison to the money this investor was putting in this building. And this was the position of the Bulgarian police. In your opinion, should I care if those pricks get infected by the virus etc. ?

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#12 2020-04-05 08:41:47

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老铁们,关于democracy和virus的问题有点敏感, 可以移步Quroa或者Zhihu讨论:

https://www.quora.com/
https://www.zhihu.com/

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#13 2020-04-05 10:53:57

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international 了

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#14 2020-04-07 23:47:13

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Mitko 说:

But, from what I understand, initially the Chinese government cover the cases

中国有个词,叫“马后炮”,或者叫“事后诸葛”,你知道啥意思不?
中国政府,在这一次疫情中,我个人觉得做得非常好了。
你们西方的媒体,一直就戴着有色眼镜来报道中国,所以你们得到的消息,基本全是和中国人拉仇恨的。
西方政府为了掩盖自己的无能,现在全赖中国。
这个事情,应该是一个很严谨的事情,科学家需要一定时间来研究,钟南山老先生发现这个病毒会人传人以后,
中国就封闭了一个工业重城(在全中国人民一年中最重要的节日,封闭一个中国工业重城,你以为开玩笑?),
美国就从中国撤侨,然后你们西方的媒体就开始嘲笑我们中国人戴口罩。
从1月份中国发现病毒,你们就开始嘲笑我们戴口罩,现在你们说中国隐瞒疫情,
你觉得作为一个有思考能力的成年人,为什么会说出这样的话来?
中国人,在一年中最重要的节日,停止外出,停止聚会,最终把感染人数控制在一个比较低的水平,难道就因为
西方国家感染人数多,中国的数据就是假的?

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#15 2020-04-08 09:14:19

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OggyJFX 说:

中国有个词,叫“马后炮”,或者叫“事后诸葛”,你知道啥意思不?
中国政府,在这一次疫情中,我个人觉得做得非常好了。
你们西方的媒体,一直就戴着有色眼镜来报道中国,所以你们得到的消息,基本全是和中国人拉仇恨的。
西方政府为了掩盖自己的无能,现在全赖中国。
这个事情,应该是一个很严谨的事情,科学家需要一定时间来研究,钟南山老先生发现这个病毒会人传人以后,
中国就封闭了一个工业重城(在全中国人民一年中最重要的节日,封闭一个中国工业重城,你以为开玩笑?),
美国就从中国撤侨,然后你们西方的媒体就开始嘲笑我们中国人戴口罩。
从1月份中国发现病毒,你们就开始嘲笑我们戴口罩,现在你们说中国隐瞒疫情,
你觉得作为一个有思考能力的成年人,为什么会说出这样的话来?
中国人,在一年中最重要的节日,停止外出,停止聚会,最终把感染人数控制在一个比较低的水平,难道就因为
西方国家感染人数多,中国的数据就是假的?

你理这种外国人干嘛?享受着中国的商品,还骂着中国,一有问题还来问你们,你们咋这么热心回答呢,遇到这种人,不搭理他,啥问题也不回答,再说了,外国疫情和中国有啥关系,做好自己就行了,看最后这么骂着中国的外国人用不用中国的口罩保命,你管他的闲事干嘛?

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#16 2020-04-08 09:17:58

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遇到这种人,你们还上杆子回答他的问题,要我说,对于中国友好的国际友人帮帮得了,这种诋毁中国的外国人一句话也不搭理他,管他的闲事,你们就是太闲了

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#17 2020-04-08 09:20:34

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估计还有人,不知道 楼主是个什么样的东西吧。

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#18 2020-04-08 16:03:26

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小智 说:

遇到这种人,你们还上杆子回答他的问题,要我说,对于中国友好的国际友人帮帮得了,这种诋毁中国的外国人一句话也不搭理他,管他的闲事,你们就是太闲了

确实是闲得没事水水贴而已。
有时候遇到问题解决不了,头疼的时候就上来水水贴。

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#19 2020-04-08 16:05:29

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k455619 说:

估计还有人,不知道 楼主是个什么样的东西吧。

有个地方方言叫“瓜娃子”。

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#20 2020-04-08 17:40:42

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OggyJFX 说:

有个地方方言叫“瓜娃子”。

还有 “憨包谷” 哈哈哈

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#21 2020-04-08 23:11:43

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I am sorry, but really do not understand what you are trying to prove. The facts show something different.

For example, recently I ordered some ICs (30 pcs - MT3608 丝印B6289 SOT23-6 5V/1.2A 移动电源专用芯片), the Shipforwarder company claims their weight is 40 g., presenting the picture:
Shipforwarder

I got s similar bag and put some similar items, just to see what the weight might be: 4g.:
4g. package

Shipforwarder claims that the items weight is 40 g. while the actual weight (probably around 4g.) is much less.

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#22 2020-04-09 11:19:50

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Mitko 说:

I am sorry, but really do not understand what you are trying to prove. The facts show something different.


我不想向你证明啥,我只想告诉你,一切都很好,大家都很幸福。 tongue  tongue
只是有一点,不要把自己的无能和懒惰,怪到别人头上。
见别人过得比自己好,就叽叽歪歪的,把自己的不幸(重点指疫情)都说成是别人的责任。
遇事多找主观原因,少找客观原因。

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#23 2020-04-09 16:22:08

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OggyJFX 说:

一切都很好,大家都很幸福。

Not so sure what is fine and who is happy with your Chinese stuff and practices ..., you can take a look at the following articles:

- Anti-Asian hate continues to spread online amid COVID-19 pandemic (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/04/anti-asian-hate-continues-spread-online-covid-19-pandemic-200405063015286.html)
- British 5G towers are being set on fire because of coronavirus conspiracy theories (https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/4/21207927/5g-towers-burning-uk-coronavirus-conspiracy-theory-link)
- Coronavirus: Countries reject Chinese-made equipment (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52092395)
- MPs launch inquiry into potential Chinese asset stripping of UK firms (https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/apr/08/mps-launch-inquiry-into-potential-chinese-asset-stripping-of-uk-firms)
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#24 2020-04-09 21:50:39

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Mitko 说:

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这些新闻愿怎么说怎么说去吧。
1. 中国有句俗话叫“好事不出门,坏事传千里”。
2. 你说的那个口罩的问题,中国政府已经解释了很多次了,西班牙自己图便宜,买了非医用口罩,中国厂家也告诉他们那是非医用口罩了,结果他们自己不注意,要拿去当医用口罩。
3. 就算那批口罩有问题,在中国出口的口罩中,也只算一小部分。就像你的产品,就一定没有BUG?有一个小BUG,我就否定你整个产品,你觉得可以么?
4. 你有没有发现,整个论坛里面,就我和你谈论一下这些事情,其它人都懒得搭理你?你们西方人总有戴着有色眼镜看待中国,成天竟整一些铺天盖地的假新闻,让人很反感。你们天天整“Anti-Asian hate”,你看论坛里面,有人天天骂你么?
5. 论坛里面的朋友们都知道的一个事实:和XX讲道理,肯定是讲不通的。

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#25 2020-04-10 09:24:48

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Mitko 说:

I am sorry, but really do not understand what you are trying to prove. The facts show something different.

For example, recently I ordered some ICs (30 pcs - MT3608 丝印B6289 SOT23-6 5V/1.2A 移动电源专用芯片), the Shipforwarder company claims their weight is 40 g., presenting the picture:
https://whycan.cn/files/members/667/Shipforwarder_20200408-2301.jpg

I got s similar bag and put some similar items, just to see what the weight might be: 4g.:
https://whycan.cn/files/members/667/4g_package.jpg

Shipforwarder claims that the items weight is 40 g. while the actual weight (probably around 4g.) is much less.

这是要笑死我然后继承我的花呗账单?

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#26 2020-04-10 11:01:40

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微凉VeiLiang 说:

这是要笑死我然后继承我的花呗账单?

这属于中式幽默,我估计他够呛能看懂你这是什么意思。

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#27 2020-04-19 01:09:08

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微凉VeiLiang 说:

这是要笑死我然后继承我的花呗账单?

If you have to pay just for shipping 30 USD/kg would you still find it laughable ?

The latest Shipforwarder price for shipping 1 kg package to Bulgaria:
Shipforwarder

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#28 2020-05-06 19:30:56

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The latest Chinese “invention” in shipping:

Shipforwarder

The copyright issues are quite important. I’ve seen on this site software with cracks etc. Shouldn't the site administrators delete such posts ?
Also why don’t you use free compilers/IDEs like GCC, Segger Embedded Studio, Eclipse … ?

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#29 2020-05-06 21:57:53

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Mitko 说:

The latest Chinese “invention” in shipping:

You are welcomed to use 100x more expensive legally licensed products.
Rule number 1 in China, there's no right or wrong, only power matters.
If they can f* your IP and get around, they will. One day you will do the same depending on which shoes your feet are in.

Mitko 说:

The copyright issues are quite important. I’ve seen on this site software with cracks etc. Shouldn't the site administrators delete such posts ?

This is a forum which is supposed to share resources.
I personally don't use pirate software, but there's nothing weird or wrong to use cracked software in China for most people.
Return the loot the West took from China and we can talk IP rights.

Mitko 说:

Also why don’t you use free compilers/IDEs like GCC, Segger Embedded Studio, Eclipse … ?

I use gcc, Linux, KiCAD and LibreOffice, and when I used to use Windows, I had a $10k copy of Altium designer, a few copies of Windows and a few copies of Office and Visio, all paid with real cash.
It's hard to persuade the others to practice what you think is right, and my recommendation for you is simple: when in Rome, do Romans do.

BTW, in case you haven't feel from the verbiage of most posters here, you are either a joke here, or a joker. You are probably not very welcomed here.

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#30 2020-05-06 22:35:51

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说实说,我不建议楼主在中国境内购买产品。

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#31 2020-05-29 17:21:22

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The Chinese greediness is endless. Not only the shipping cost were raised, different fees introduced, but the lattes: The earlier advertised PCB manufacturer, raised the price, for 2 model PCB – 20 CNY/10 pcs., for 4 model – 120 CNY.

PCBs China

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#32 2020-05-29 18:18:57

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Mitko 说:

The Chinese greediness is endless. Not only the shipping cost were raised, different fees introduced, but the lattes: The earlier advertised PCB manufacturer, raised the price, for 2 model PCB – 20 CNY/10 pcs., for 4 model – 120 CNY.

If you need something from them, they have the advantage on price setting.
If you don't know what (raw) capitalism is, I suggest you to look it up on Wikipedia.

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#33 2020-05-29 18:28:39

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Blueskull 说:

If you need something from them, they have the advantage on price setting.
If you don't know what (raw) capitalism is, I suggest you to look it up on Wikipedia.

I really highly recommend you not to play further on my nerve. Presume you follow the Huawei case … Additional measures can be taken against China and Chinese companies and people.

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#34 2020-05-29 18:51:02

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Mitko 说:

I really highly recommend you not to play further on my nerve. Presume you follow the Huawei case … Additional measures can be taken against China and Chinese companies and people.


Lol. Who the F do you think you are? Oh, just another partially evolved white trash with stinky armpits.

BTW, Chinese government has captured a few Canadian and American spies, one eben being former doplomat. I don't see China loses in Ms. Meng's case on an an eye for an eye basis.

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#35 2020-06-01 15:00:01

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Blueskull 说:

Lol. Who the F do you think you are? Oh, just another partially evolved white trash with stinky armpits..

In UK for example people loose their jobs … for such comments … Unfortunately, in China as well as the moderators of this web site seems not to take proper measures regarding the previous as well as current insults, harassment etc.

I currently wondering which would be more effective, to demand from the European authorities this web site to be ban in Europe, North America or take more drastic measures ?

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#36 2020-06-01 19:05:16

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Mitko 说:

In UK for example people loose their jobs … for such comments …

So white supremacy is true in the decadent West. I ALMOST can't breathe.

Mitko 说:

I currently wondering which would be more effective, to demand from the European authorities this web site to be ban in Europe, North America or take more drastic measures ?

I recommend you to do all of these and see if anyone ever gives you a single shit. We'd be glad if this forum is not plagued with inferior races.

最近编辑记录 Blueskull (2020-06-01 19:07:44)

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#37 2020-06-01 19:29:46

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@Blueskull, Don’t you understand what huge JOKE you are …

@ SITE ADMINISTRATORS: I DEMAND MY ACCOUNT TO BE DELETED ! I ALREADY REPORTED THIS WEB SITE TO THE POLICE. CONTINUING TO ALLOW INSULTING ... MESSAGES, PUBLISH CRACK AND PIRATED SOFTWARE WILL RESULT ADDITIONAL ACTIONS !

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#38 2020-06-01 19:36:52

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Mitko 说:

@Blueskull, Don’t you understand what huge JOKE you are …

I know what I am, little angry man.

You probably want to know that Baidu is the world's largest piracy website, technically, and they make good money and even got listed on NASDAQ.

No one cares about what you believe fucktard. Let's see what your puny little police friends can do to us.

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#39 2020-06-01 19:37:18

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@站长 抓紧把这傻子封了吧,这就是个脑残

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#40 2020-11-09 16:24:58

Mitko
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Blueskull 说:

Let's see what your puny little police friends can do to us.

You have a point, the European police is not so good ...

xm1994 说:

@站长 抓紧把这傻子封了吧,这就是个脑残

Your comment translates to: @站长, hurry up and seal this fool, this is a brain-dead

I find the Chinese are more stupid people, as about the dead, look what your virus is causing in Denmark:

Minkst

Denmark to cull up to 17 million mink amid coronavirus fears: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54818615

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#41 2020-11-09 16:46:03

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你是特朗普转世吧,这锅甩得阔以噢
如果嘴炮可以治疗你们欧洲就好了。

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#42 2020-11-10 16:17:49

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嘴炮一时爽,一直嘴炮一直爽

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